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In a world where every conspiracy theory seemed to turn out true—aliens were real, the moon landing was staged, and Bigfoot was finally spotted sipping a latte at a local café—a group of flat earthers gathered around their screens, giddy with anticipation. They were convinced that any day now, the world would reveal its true shape. But as a global pandemic hit and governments dabbled in some questionable science, their excitement peaked. They expected a grand reveal from scientists confirming their beliefs, but instead, a press conference showed scientists emerging from a spaceship and casually discussing their travels around a spherical Earth.
The flat earthers watched in disbelief as each fantastical theory they dismissed as “nonsense” became validation for countless collective sighs. It was like ordering a pizza and getting a salad—everyone else got to enjoy a slice while they were stuck trying to make sense of why reality just wouldn’t fall in line with their beliefs. They were overzealous fans left out in the cold when the real party was at the round table!
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Moon is round, sun is round, all the other planets are round. But the earth is a fucking frisbee flying through space?
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Here’s the difference: You could spend 6-7 years studying to get your PhD in astronomy and potentially make $120 thousand to be an actual expert on this subject. Or you could spend a week on a YouTube wormhole on Flat Earth conspiracy videos and be an expert in less than a week and make a decent salary at these conventions. All the dumb people choose this option.
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[So like this?](https://share.google/images/ACR6H0zrBS3hVqyKV)
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[Or you can watch the sun in the clouds from a plane and know that it’s not 93 million miles away.](https://youtu.be/XQKS0kvTWzQ?si=NXUDbePBOJ7nFoMR)
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Right so the fact that the Earth rotates and the positoj the plane is in has the clouds between the Sun and the Plane doesn’t matter? Rather you will believe that the Sun exists in some sort of extra-spatial “firmament”?
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Instead of watching the sun in the clouds, and thinking about what you see with your eyes, you’d rather get combative. We’ve learned recently to believe your eyes and not the government lies. I get it, it’s hard to dismiss everything you think you know cuz you feel like you’re smart enough not to be lied to. Here’s more for your eyes. [The moon in the clouds](https://www.reddit.com/r/moon/s/t84hF0k5HK)
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I’m Australian mate I look at drastically different night sky to someone who lives in the Northern Hemisphere. The moon is definitely behind the clouds. I don’t think I’m particularly smart regardless, but I trust the centuries of scientific thinking that got us to the point we are at. Not to mention an ancestor of mine (im Greek) used simple trigonometry and mathematics to prove the spherical nature of the planet over 2000 years ago. Its a point of ethnic pride at this stage.
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How do you not realize that this is proof AGAINST the flat earth. You think the sun just hangs out below the cloud level???
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How does that video disprove anything?
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drcobosjr is in the OP and doesn’t like it
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Funny your commented reminded of this. I once went on a date with a really sweet guy and during the dinner, he told me that the moon isn’t real. Among other things, he also explained to me that electricity isn’t real and there’s this thing or an ancient technology called “ether” (pronounced that way so idk the correct spelling) that IS the actual electricity, used by ancient humans and were freely available to everyone by harvesting it from air. And that it was the government who invented electricity in order to control the society. It was a wild 1.5hr dinner. I was so fascinated I couldn’t believe my luck.
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The [aether](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories) theory was around for a couple hundred years but was obviously disproven in the 19th century. Just in case you were curious where he may have gotten the idea. It also had nothing to do with free energy though a lot of cooky people like to believe in Tesla’s promise of free energy from the air (at the stage of life where he was romancing pigeons and offering to pay for his hotel room with a doomsday weapon that was a box of scrap). To my knowledge that had little to do with aether but resonates in the same weird pop-sci-history lore. The timing and the name both *roughly* line up.
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They’re all frisbees. Always were
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Yes, but they are all disks. Flat disks. That’s why they look round.
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But they are all disks pointed at our disk in a way that makes them look like spheres and not ovals or lines?
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The mug is round The jar is round They should call it Roundtine
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Flat earthers are geo-centrists in denial. Its the only way the “everything else is round but the earth is flat” could even remotely work
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Not flying we are stationary the sun moves over us the moon isn’t a space rock but a made structure but you’re not ready for that convo yet 🤣
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NUH UH! Earth is CLEARLY a DONUT SHAPE! Fucking DUH!
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If the Earth were flat, wouldn’t cats have pushed everything over the edge by now?
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Yes, yes they would have.
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At the edge of the world are the negicats. They push everything in and away from the edge.
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So wait wait. Egyptians came to worship cats because of their hunting/guarding nature. Much later, cats were associated with witchcraft for a number of reasons (spinsterhood, loud sex, demonification of past pagan beliefs, etc). Now, they are the lodestone to flat earth conspiracies. Obviously, flat earthers are crazies. But, if I were to be told that cats are a part of a global conspiracy… I wouldn’t say hell, yeah. But I wouldn’t immediately say hell no.
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> cats were associated with witchcraft for a number of reasons … loud sex … I’m curious, but I don’t want that in my search history.
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Steps for looking into anything you want search from here. Step 1 a vpn Step 2 Kali Linux that erases after shutdown Step 3 eve within Kali use brave with incognito+Tor protocol. If after all that they still come for you what hell did you look up 🤔
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There’s another cat on the other side that pushes it back
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The only major flaw of flat earth, according to me… is it s a conspiracy theory that requires all the countries of the world, all reputable scientists of the world, all people who have travelled to Antarctica, all people who have been to space, all astronomers to be in on the conspiracy, even pilots 😭😭. All these need to be in sync for it to be true. that is its major flaw. It needs to find a way to limit the people who have actual proof to survive.
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Its major flaw its that it’s provably not true. Doesn’t matter how many people agree, you have to deny math and physics to think the earth is flat.
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It is definitely not true, but conspiracy theories need some level of secrecy to survive. Flat earth needs too many people which makes secrecy impossible, so it is too blatantly obvious to survive. But it still survives centuries later…baffling.
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Well all the people who went to the edge fell off obviously, so that’s why nobody has come back with proof. Duh.
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😂😂😂.. I love this. I’m assuming you are sarcastic… otherwise… 💀
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Then you have flat earthers who do super well thought out scientific experiments then their results show the earth is actually round. What do they say then? “I must’ve done something wrong…” Which is a huge problem with how people see science now. The experiments aren’t to prove yourself “right” by seeking evidence, it’s to actively look for ways you might be wrong and then refine your thought process
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You are right. From what I’ve seen, they are never wrong. They come up with experiments, the prove earth is round, they justify with additional made up theories and continue. Very confusing people
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My point is that secrecy is besides the point. The conspiracy doesn’t *just* require secrecy. It requires throwing out math and science altogether because they prove that the earth is round without a doubt. That’s how you get videos of flat earthers with egg on their face after they set up an experiment and inadvertently prove the earth is round.
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They throw out math and blame it on secrecy. one of the ways to debunk a truth is go for its ethos, that is what flat earthers target in a low trust society. Math is definitive but once they discredit mathematicians…. they have played a good hand.
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Math stands on its own. You don’t need other mathematicians to prove it. In principle, you could rediscover math all on your own.
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Do you think a flat earther will accept math discovered on their own. They have their own calculations …haha
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Contrary to popular belief, math and physics is not common knowledge…😂😂
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The conspiracy is that people really didn’t believe in flat earth. The spherical nature of the Earth was well understood and taught since antiquity. The experiment that determined the size and roundness of the earth was something done in ancient Egypt by using wells, the sun at noon, and math. We have middle English stories where people are mocked for being uneducated and dumb by claiming that they must believe that they think the Earth is flat. Even the “Spanish denied Columbus ships because they thought the Earth was flat” was English people calling the Spanish stupid rather than something they actually believed. The Spanish knew the Earth was round, they just thought that Columbus wouldn’t make it to India because the distance was too long. They were correct, Columbus wouldn’t have made it but there was a whole other set of continents. So, the Flat Earth Conspiracy isn’t an example of something from the distant past that survived, but rather something new to modern world that comes from a desire to know a special truth and reject expertise and intellectual elites.
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You have said it spot on here “From a desire to know a special truth and reject expertise and intellectual elites.” That is all.
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>Its major flaw its that it’s provably not true. The fuck do you mean “probably?” The jury’s not out for debate on this one, man. The earth is definitely not flat. Don’t need to throw a “probably” in there to cover your tracks.
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he probably meant proveabley, as in it can be proven to be not true, not probably.
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Yes, this.
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Provably, not probably
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“Provably” (can be proven) and “probably” (most likely) are two different words, my dude.
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The major flaw of flat Earth conspiracy is that Earth being round or flat is at the end of the day inconsequential, if it was flat there would be no gain in pretending it’s round and vice versa. In other conspiracies you can at least point to some reason even if absurd, like 5g chip in vaccines you can at least say that controlling/influencing people would be a huge boon for the conspirators. If Earth was flat that would just be our reality, like whatever
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I get you, there should be a deeper meaning/purpose to earth being flat. This is a valid contender to the flat earth conspiracy. Good one.
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I feel like, to one degree or another, the deeper meaning is that you can’t trust scientists, letting the believer feel justified in disbelieving any science they don’t like.
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You are on point, I wont argue. Its foundation is a lack of trust in the systems we have. The scientists, the mathematics, the video evidence. They wont believe unless they see, and you cant take them all to space… or Antarctica to see the 24hr sun… too expensive, very little rewards.
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